I do not know if you are aware of the plight of Michael Shields. Michael is an 18 year old Liverpool fan currently serving 15 years in a Bulgarian prison for a crime he did not commit. Despite all the evidence and a written confession of another fan Michael still remains locked up.
I would be grateful if you would go here http://www.freemichaelshields.org/about.html and sign the on-line petition.
Spread the word and get more people to sign it please.
Thanks
Kev
Michael Shields is innocent
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u201CThey just took him. No explanation, no reason, nothing, they just took him. Heu2019s such a gentle lad, he must have been scared to deathu201D.
This police must be even dumber that ours! If the police arrests you they'll have to tell you why they do this!
Perhaps nobody was able to speak a little bit English???
"On the way to the police station, the car stopped at Big Benu2019s Bar u2013 the scene of the attack u2013 where one of the arresting officers got out to speak to a group of witnesses"
Oh that's nice!!! The witnesses were still standing by the scene of attack...
Must be a 24h Pub and everyone's there all the time?! Were they told to go there again by the police???
"Itu2019s no surprise, then, that shortly after his arrest Michael Shields was identified as Georgievu2019s attacker by u2018witnessesu2019 whou2019d already been given ample opportunity to familiarise themselves with Michaelu2019s face."
Didn't they say first that the "attacker" was a big guy with black hair? Were these the same witnesses or others?
"Twenty-four hours later, the teenager was in a prison cell, where he remains to this day. On July 26th, after a trial in which Sankeyu2019s confession was ruled inadmissible, 18-year old Michael Shields was convicted of attempted murder and sentenced to serve 15 years in jail."
That's horrible but I can't understand this sentence because it was said that Michael didn't wear this special white shirt and there were even evidences??!!
What does the British Embassy say now? Is the EMRK aware about this case??
This police must be even dumber that ours! If the police arrests you they'll have to tell you why they do this!
Perhaps nobody was able to speak a little bit English???
"On the way to the police station, the car stopped at Big Benu2019s Bar u2013 the scene of the attack u2013 where one of the arresting officers got out to speak to a group of witnesses"
Oh that's nice!!! The witnesses were still standing by the scene of attack...
Must be a 24h Pub and everyone's there all the time?! Were they told to go there again by the police???
"Itu2019s no surprise, then, that shortly after his arrest Michael Shields was identified as Georgievu2019s attacker by u2018witnessesu2019 whou2019d already been given ample opportunity to familiarise themselves with Michaelu2019s face."
Didn't they say first that the "attacker" was a big guy with black hair? Were these the same witnesses or others?
"Twenty-four hours later, the teenager was in a prison cell, where he remains to this day. On July 26th, after a trial in which Sankeyu2019s confession was ruled inadmissible, 18-year old Michael Shields was convicted of attempted murder and sentenced to serve 15 years in jail."
That's horrible but I can't understand this sentence because it was said that Michael didn't wear this special white shirt and there were even evidences??!!
What does the British Embassy say now? Is the EMRK aware about this case??
A*schelo hat geschrieben:Ha ha, da beklagt sich jemand der mehrere Pseudos hat. Armselig.
Wem's nicht passt, kann gehen....
Antwort Eierli, wenn der Thread nicht gerade gesperrt worden wäre hat geschrieben:Armselig ist, wer nicht mit gleichen Ellen messen kann. Machs gut, Spaghetti.
Witness testimony is often presumed to be better than circumstantial evidence. Studies have shown that individual, separate witness testimony is often flawed and parts of it can be meaningless. This can occur because of a person's faulty observation and recollection, because of a person's bias, or because the witness is lying. If several witnesses witness a crime it is probative to look for similarities in their collective descriptions to substantiate the facts of an event, keeping in mind the contrasts of individual descriptions. One study involved an experiment in which subjects acted as jurors in a criminal case. Jurors heard a description of a robbery-murder, then a prosecution argument, then an argument for the defense. Some jurors heard only circumstantial evidence, others heard from a clerk who claimed to identify the defendant. In the first case, 18% percent found the defendant guilty, but in the second, 72% found the defendant guilty. (Loftus 1988) Lineups, where the eyewitness picks out a suspect from a group of people in the police station, are often grossly suggestive, and give the false impression that the witness remembered the suspect. In another study, students watched a staged crime. An hour later they looked through photos. A week later they were asked to pick the suspect out of lineups. 8% of the people in the lineups were mistakenly identified as criminals. 20% of the innocent people whose photographs were included were mistakenly identified. (University of Nebraska 1977)
Another study looked at sixty-five cases of "erroneous criminal convictions of innocent people." In 45% of the cases, eyewitness mistakes were responsible. (Borchard p. 367).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness
Problematisch ist die Einordnung des Gehalts der Falschaussage. Unter welchen Voraussetzungen eine Aussage als falsch angesehen wird, ist umstritten. Nach gefestigter herrschender Auffassung ist vom objektiven, also tatsächlichen Widerspruch zwischen Aussageinhalt und Wirklichkeit auszugehen. Die Anhänger der subjektiven Theorie stellen dagegen darauf ab, dass der Aussagende stets nur das berichten kann, was er als Wirklichkeit wahrgenommen hat. Nach der Anschauung des Aussagenden ist sein Bericht wahr. Problematisch ist insbesondere die objektive Auffassung, wenn Eindrücke oder Gefühle berichtet werden, die nicht objektivierbar sind. Andererseits verkennt die subjektive Auffassung, dass durch die Wahrnehmung allein nicht das Ziel der Aussage zur Erhellung der Wirklichkeit erreicht wird. Die objektive Ansicht bietet dem Aussagenden bei Irrtümern über seine Aussage mit dem Tatbestandsirrtum nach § 16 StGB einen ausreichenden Schutz. Ohne weiteres besteht jedoch unabhängig von der zu vertretenden Theorie die Pflicht des Aussagenden, die Wirklichkeit aus seiner Erinnerung heraus wahrheitsgetreu zu schildern. Gerade bei lückenhafter Erinnerung besteht stets die Gefahr, dass die Lücken durch Vorurteile oder kombinatorische Fehlinterpretationen geschlossen werden.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falschaussage
Another study looked at sixty-five cases of "erroneous criminal convictions of innocent people." In 45% of the cases, eyewitness mistakes were responsible. (Borchard p. 367).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witness
Problematisch ist die Einordnung des Gehalts der Falschaussage. Unter welchen Voraussetzungen eine Aussage als falsch angesehen wird, ist umstritten. Nach gefestigter herrschender Auffassung ist vom objektiven, also tatsächlichen Widerspruch zwischen Aussageinhalt und Wirklichkeit auszugehen. Die Anhänger der subjektiven Theorie stellen dagegen darauf ab, dass der Aussagende stets nur das berichten kann, was er als Wirklichkeit wahrgenommen hat. Nach der Anschauung des Aussagenden ist sein Bericht wahr. Problematisch ist insbesondere die objektive Auffassung, wenn Eindrücke oder Gefühle berichtet werden, die nicht objektivierbar sind. Andererseits verkennt die subjektive Auffassung, dass durch die Wahrnehmung allein nicht das Ziel der Aussage zur Erhellung der Wirklichkeit erreicht wird. Die objektive Ansicht bietet dem Aussagenden bei Irrtümern über seine Aussage mit dem Tatbestandsirrtum nach § 16 StGB einen ausreichenden Schutz. Ohne weiteres besteht jedoch unabhängig von der zu vertretenden Theorie die Pflicht des Aussagenden, die Wirklichkeit aus seiner Erinnerung heraus wahrheitsgetreu zu schildern. Gerade bei lückenhafter Erinnerung besteht stets die Gefahr, dass die Lücken durch Vorurteile oder kombinatorische Fehlinterpretationen geschlossen werden.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falschaussage
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Users:
Bitte verwendet die auf der Petition vorkommenden Namen nicht in diesem Forum!
For Snorky:
Please do not use the names of people who signed in this "Forum"
Dankschön, wär sunscht nämligg schaad!
Bitte verwendet die auf der Petition vorkommenden Namen nicht in diesem Forum!
For Snorky:
Please do not use the names of people who signed in this "Forum"
Dankschön, wär sunscht nämligg schaad!
A*schelo hat geschrieben:Ha ha, da beklagt sich jemand der mehrere Pseudos hat. Armselig.
Wem's nicht passt, kann gehen....
Antwort Eierli, wenn der Thread nicht gerade gesperrt worden wäre hat geschrieben:Armselig ist, wer nicht mit gleichen Ellen messen kann. Machs gut, Spaghetti.
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Jamie Carragher donated his goal in Kaunas to Michael. He said at the end of the game that he would have wore a t-shirt under his kit if he knew he was going to score.
The British government have done nothing, they said they will not interfere with another countries judicial process.
If Michael was a ministers's son he would be out now, because he is a football fan he must be a hooligan by default.
The British government have done nothing, they said they will not interfere with another countries judicial process.
If Michael was a ministers's son he would be out now, because he is a football fan he must be a hooligan by default.
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Boah, that's evil!!! Bush and terrorism is more important that British people having trouble with the law of other countries because of a wrong sentence.Snorky hat geschrieben:The British government have done nothing, they said they will not interfere with another countries judicial process.
That's sad.... better we talk about football
A*schelo hat geschrieben:Ha ha, da beklagt sich jemand der mehrere Pseudos hat. Armselig.
Wem's nicht passt, kann gehen....
Antwort Eierli, wenn der Thread nicht gerade gesperrt worden wäre hat geschrieben:Armselig ist, wer nicht mit gleichen Ellen messen kann. Machs gut, Spaghetti.
I understand, but imagine how you would feel if it was one of your friends or a member of your family locked up ?Diggi_Eier hat geschrieben:Boah, that's evil!!! Bush and terrorism is more important that British people having trouble with the law of other countries because of a wrong sentence.
That's sad.... better we talk about football
I match the description of Michael (although a lot older), if I'd of stayed in the same hotel as Michael, the police could have arrested me.
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Ou, it seems that you've missunderstood my words (or better: I wasn't able to make myself clear enough)Snorky hat geschrieben:I understand, but imagine how you would feel if it was one of your friends or a member of your family locked up ?
This is not a Joke for me and I am deeply concerned.
I just said "Better we talk about football" because it would be more useful than speaking of a Gouvernment making nothing for the people.
I'm sorry if you think this was only a bad joke... it isn't funny, at all.
A*schelo hat geschrieben:Ha ha, da beklagt sich jemand der mehrere Pseudos hat. Armselig.
Wem's nicht passt, kann gehen....
Antwort Eierli, wenn der Thread nicht gerade gesperrt worden wäre hat geschrieben:Armselig ist, wer nicht mit gleichen Ellen messen kann. Machs gut, Spaghetti.
Not a problem, I should really learn Swiss/German, but I am lazy. I think your words were lost in translation.Diggi_Eier hat geschrieben:Ou, it seems that you've missunderstood my words (or better: I wasn't able to make myself clear enough)
This is not a Joke for me and I am deeply concerned.
I just said "Better we talk about football" because it would be more useful than speaking of a Gouvernment making nothing for the people.
I'm sorry if you think this was only a bad joke... it isn't funny, at all.
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This is an awful miscomprehension and rather dramatic,drastic!Snorky hat geschrieben:I do not know if you are aware of the plight of Michael Shields. Michael is an 18 year old Liverpool fan currently serving 15 years in a Bulgarian prison for a crime he did not commit. Despite all the evidence and a written confession of another fan Michael still remains locked up.
I would be grateful if you would go here http://www.freemichaelshields.org/about.html and sign the on-line petition.
Spread the word and get more people to sign it please.
Thanks
Kev
It is absolutely a tremendous pity for the lad.
What are the evidences exactly.It seems to me not accurate enough,without DNA-evidence on that T-shirt.Let me think about it!
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Michael has his appeal heard today.
Not that confident as the Bulgarian courts really feel they have the right man. As for DNA on the brick - I believe the brick was not found.
Shields' Lawyer: Recognition Procedure Was Vitiated
Exclusive Interview: 5 August 2005, Friday.
Lawyer Oleg Atanassov is defendant lawyer of Michael Shields, 19, who was jailed for 15 years. Shields was convicted of premeditated attempt to kill Martin Georgiev, a Bulgarian barman who suffered a fractured skull in a street melee with British fans on May 30. Georgiev has said the court jailed the right man, while Michael Shields has protested his innocence.
Sofia News Agency Editor Ivelina Puhaleva approached lawyer Oleg Atanassov to discuss the trial and the expectations of the defense team in the appeals proceedings for the release of Shields. The Varna Appeals court will hear the case on August 9.
Q: Mr Atanassov, is it possible to bring Sankey back to Bulgaria and question him again in court?
A: There are no such legal proceedings. The only option is to declare him wanted through Interpol, but for this purpose in the country wanting his search, the person should be a defendant in a lawsuit or has an enforced sentence. Which we do not have in this case.
Q: What if Bulgaria claims Sankey extradited?
A: It does not matter. There is hardly any country in the world to extradite its own citizen to a country where the person might be sentenced for life.
Q: Is it possible that the Varna Prosecution Office launches penal proceedings against Graham Sankey? What would happen in this case?
A: If the Bulgarian prosecution launches proceedings against Graham Sankey, it would mean to admit the option that Sankey, instead of Shields, had committed the crime for which Michael Shields received a sentence of 15 years in jail. In my opinion, the prosecution should answer the question whether there is any evidence against Sankey, given the press reports.
Another option is to refuse to initiate penal proceedings.
Q: What do you expect in the trial further on?
A: Regretfully, I do not believe that the appeals court would review the evidence, so far as the authorship of the crime is concerned. But I think the strong side of the defense is that the procedure of recognition of Michael Shields was obviously vitiated.
Q: In what way was it vitiated?
A: First of all, the persons subjected to recognition hardly look like Michael Shields. Secondly, my client was not allowed to pick up a number on his own. Shields has claimed that every time he appeared for recognition he held the same number. Besides, in only one of the series of recognitions - on June 16 - the procedure was performed in the presence of a lawyer.
I have also objected the blatant insimilarity of Michael Shields with the rest of the people who appeared for recognition.
Q: Do you find such close similarity between Michael Shields and Graham Sankey?
A: I have not seen Sankey personally, but according to the staff in Crystal Hotel where they stayed, the two looked quite alike in height and stature.
Sofia News
*As I anticipated. The Appeal will hinge on Identification Issues.
Not that confident as the Bulgarian courts really feel they have the right man. As for DNA on the brick - I believe the brick was not found.
Shields' Lawyer: Recognition Procedure Was Vitiated
Exclusive Interview: 5 August 2005, Friday.
Lawyer Oleg Atanassov is defendant lawyer of Michael Shields, 19, who was jailed for 15 years. Shields was convicted of premeditated attempt to kill Martin Georgiev, a Bulgarian barman who suffered a fractured skull in a street melee with British fans on May 30. Georgiev has said the court jailed the right man, while Michael Shields has protested his innocence.
Sofia News Agency Editor Ivelina Puhaleva approached lawyer Oleg Atanassov to discuss the trial and the expectations of the defense team in the appeals proceedings for the release of Shields. The Varna Appeals court will hear the case on August 9.
Q: Mr Atanassov, is it possible to bring Sankey back to Bulgaria and question him again in court?
A: There are no such legal proceedings. The only option is to declare him wanted through Interpol, but for this purpose in the country wanting his search, the person should be a defendant in a lawsuit or has an enforced sentence. Which we do not have in this case.
Q: What if Bulgaria claims Sankey extradited?
A: It does not matter. There is hardly any country in the world to extradite its own citizen to a country where the person might be sentenced for life.
Q: Is it possible that the Varna Prosecution Office launches penal proceedings against Graham Sankey? What would happen in this case?
A: If the Bulgarian prosecution launches proceedings against Graham Sankey, it would mean to admit the option that Sankey, instead of Shields, had committed the crime for which Michael Shields received a sentence of 15 years in jail. In my opinion, the prosecution should answer the question whether there is any evidence against Sankey, given the press reports.
Another option is to refuse to initiate penal proceedings.
Q: What do you expect in the trial further on?
A: Regretfully, I do not believe that the appeals court would review the evidence, so far as the authorship of the crime is concerned. But I think the strong side of the defense is that the procedure of recognition of Michael Shields was obviously vitiated.
Q: In what way was it vitiated?
A: First of all, the persons subjected to recognition hardly look like Michael Shields. Secondly, my client was not allowed to pick up a number on his own. Shields has claimed that every time he appeared for recognition he held the same number. Besides, in only one of the series of recognitions - on June 16 - the procedure was performed in the presence of a lawyer.
I have also objected the blatant insimilarity of Michael Shields with the rest of the people who appeared for recognition.
Q: Do you find such close similarity between Michael Shields and Graham Sankey?
A: I have not seen Sankey personally, but according to the staff in Crystal Hotel where they stayed, the two looked quite alike in height and stature.
Sofia News
*As I anticipated. The Appeal will hinge on Identification Issues.
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- noch em CL-final mit familie und kollege noch bulgarie in d'feriemaradoo hat geschrieben:was het dä den gmacht das är 15johr bekunnt?
- am obe hets bin ere bar im ferieort e usenandersetzig gä, pflaschterstei-würf
- barkeeper tödlich troffe bzw. aschliessend gstorbe
- dr steischmeisser sig e "grosse mit dunggle hoor" gsi
- dr verhafteti isch zwar gross, het aber blondi hoor und isch zum tatzytpunggt im hotelzimmer am schlofe gsi
- insgesamt 4 kollege verhaftet
- dr schuldig kunnt frei, fliegt heim uf liverpool (zitat: "i ha d'lotterie gwunne")
- em unschuldige wird dr prozäss gmacht - 15 johr wäge mord
- dr schuldig mäldet sich us dr heimat und versicheret schriftlich, dass är dr täter isch und dr stei gworfe het
- neus verfahre irgendwie hängig
- abtusch vom gfangene nid möglig, kei land lieferet bürger in e drittland us wenn dört e hochi strof droht
- pattsituation?